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I think ya'll need to lighten up on Mike. He's doing what he can, and pushing the issue is not doing ANYBODY any good. If the owners of the bird are not actively looking for the bird and have posted in normal places, they could very well be missing the one place some folks don't look. The newspaper and in vets offices. It could also be just as with me and Shelly.. someone decided they didn't want the 'tiel and just tossed her out the door. We'll never know, but again, Mike is/has done what he is able to do.

Sam

I'm with Sam on this.

I think there has been enough badgering of someone that we do not know (Mike) and know little about. Everyone has to make their own choice about how to respond to a lost or found bird.

Nor do we know anything about the circumstances surrounding the actual loss/release of this bird. We can assume that the former owner is bereft, but we will never really know.

My feeling is that if there is any further interest in continuing a discussion relating to the ethical considerations of how to respond to a lost/found bird, it should be done within a new post

Kim,

It does no good whatsoever to keep beating a dead horse. I for one really know how I felt when Gizmo and Chibi got lose, and in the case of Gizmo, got him back the next morning, but I also still miss Chibi, but have to accept the fact that someone might have him and have no intentions of returning him or trying to find us. Mike was good hearted enough to take the bird in, and I'm sure, will provide a good home for the bird, but you can't just blame him. He's stated he's tried to locate the owner(s) and it very well could be the owners don't care whether the bird ever comes back or not. Remember, not everyone in this world shares our passion for animals and birds.

Sam

I agree here. Mike did what most won't, he DID look. Nobody contacted him. While sad, this DOES happen quite often!

I do agree that a discussion of the ethics should be started on another board, but let this die please. He now needs help with the bird in his posession. Either help or don't. Continuing to harass someone will just drive them away, and we have lost enough good members lately.

Remember, this is to be a friendly place.

I do realize that Mike has a busy life at this time and can only do so much, but all I know is if it was me, I would be making the time and doing everything possible because I would hope the same would be done for me if any of mine ever got out.
Also, in alot of Mike's posts it seems like he is more interested in what to do with the bird while in his care-----get the bird another buddie, sit by the cage talking-----and in my opinion he should be spending that time looking for the owner-----just my opinion, sorry if it seems harsh to you, but to me the heartbreak of losing a bird is much worse and I just can't help but sympathize with that person over Mike right now-----sorry Mike!

See, here is the problem though, Woody. Mike is being as kind hearted as they can. Could have just left the bird out there for somebody else to find and instead brought it in their home when they weren't ready for bird. SO, they are doing the best they can and that just has to be believed and accepted. Making suggestions on how to find the bird's owner is one thing, but assuming that Mike is not doing the best that they can ON TOP of having a kid and ON TOP of their busy work schedule, or assuming that they haven't already sympathized with the owner having lost a pet will not help the stress level that Mike is feeling.

Now, not everyone can spend their sole time on finding an owner and we do not know that Mike is not doing just that. Give them a break, this is a stress and the more stressed out Mike is, don't you think the more stressed out the bird will be?

Also, how do we know if the owner just didn't set the bird free themselves? Not every pet owner is a golden, educated lovable person--remember that.

Okay, enough.

This is a very sensitive issue for everyone. Please let the topic die.

Mike, how about starting another thread with more specific questions as your training progresses?

I don't believe I was harassing anyone! I was merely caring about the poor people or person who lost this bird. Here is another ad I found......http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/laf/685298883.html Would help if we knew more about what the bird looks like.