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MFids THANKS for all the info you looked up. Good job of informing us us all.

My vet is Broadview Animal and Bird Hospital, Drs. Shaw and Wolf. I don't know why I need to even state this since only one person seems to be overly concerned about this fact. Info on this thread merely replied back to a person asking a valid question and seems to have turned into a major issue -- by only one poster objecting to bird owners using ACV.

Everyone has a right to their opinion. No one is forcing anyone to try the ACV treatment. If one has any "concerns" then DON'T try it. Yes, check with your vet. I already stated this fact. All I said is that ACV works for me. Nooooo, it won't help if your bird has a major disease. You will still need to consult a vet (veterinarian, that is -- not a veteran).

One thought: Most doctors in the medical world do not like patients to consider "natural" remedies. Well, yahhhh, doctors lose money in kickbacks they get for prescriptions. Ever think maybe some veterinarians "might" think this same way over losing money for medical treatments????? Everyone has a right to their own opinion, though, and that includes anyone posting on this site or any professional medical person.

I am sure I will be beat up for these comments, but my opinions stand.

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Disclaimer: My comments on this site are of my own opinion. My intent is a friendly chat, to promote the welfare and proper care of parrots, offer helpful bird advice, to alert this site to issues that may result in financial loss, or issues (pro or con) that may arise concerning obtaining, purchasing, or adopting pet birds/parrots. My intent is not to criticize or hurt anyone else's feelings. If anyone thinks my comments pertain to themselves specifically, I apologize publicly, here in advance. If you object to my comments/posts/jokes, pls. private message me so as not to offend sensitive members on this site. Thank you.

I took Sunny for her first vet visit yesturday. She recieved a clean bill of health. I asked about the apple cider vinegar in her water. She told me 1 tablespoon to a gallon of water is good for her. She said I could give that to her everyday if she would drink it she suggested that I try giving it to her 2 or 3 days out of the week until she gets use to it. So I will surely be trying to do that. I would like to say thanks for the information because I didn't know this could help her.

Monica,

Thank you for the in dept review and recommendations on ACV. As you know I'm an avid user of ACV and GSE for my birds as well as for myself. Does ACV work for a yeast infection? Yes, I have followed it with a lab microscope from the day I discovered budding yeast for several days and it was gone. I have seen the same type of results with GSE. Does ACV or GSE keep bacteria at a lower level in water, the answer is again yes.

You have listed links to many uses of ACV. In the past couple of years avian vets are leaning towards the holistic medicines rather tha antibiotics and antifungals if they have time on their side.

You know the birds we have and the quality care we give them!



Gary (WingedVictory)

Thank you, all for this enjoyable discussion. Lets count the votes now.

One against ACV. Everyone else posting here is for ACV.

Should we close the voting down now since it appears:
l) A lot of avian vets have actually approved ACV use.
2) Many of us experienced and newer parrot owners have had success with ACV.
3) A lot of good articles have been written about ACV use for birds, animals, humans.

Disclaimer, this treatment does not take the place of a vet check. (had to add this because you know who will be jumping in next...)

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Disclaimer: My comments on this site are of my own opinion. My intent is a friendly chat, to promote the welfare and proper care of parrots, offer helpful bird advice, to alert this site to issues that may result in financial loss, or issues (pro or con) that may arise concerning obtaining, purchasing, or adopting pet birds/parrots. My intent is not to criticize or hurt anyone else's feelings. If anyone thinks my comments pertain to themselves specifically, I apologize publicly, here in advance. If you object to my comments/posts/jokes, pls. private message me so as not to offend sensitive members on this site. Thank you.

I am not sure who moderates users on this board.. but some careful thought should be given to it.

I came here looking for some advise on what I was told by another bird breeder in regards to ACV.

I know bird people/owners can be some of the quirkest and down right rude people when it comes to giving advise but I have to say that even I was shocked at all the exclamation points- back handed complements to take a dig at another user and if I was a new bird owner coming here to seek advise and help- I would be going somewhere else.

UA6 use to be a free site/service all the way around- but now that you are charging for certain aspects of the usage of your site- I would think that you would want people to feel welcome and non-threatened when it comes to posting a questions or thought. I would think everyone would want that.

Now I am sure I will be attacked by the same person who was attacking everyone else with their "education" and words of caution. But I just thought -what the heck.. I will sign in for the first time in 2 years and say- WTH?? Is this the way we have conversations now on the board??

There have never been mods at UAS in the 11 years I've been here. Damian installed the feedback system a couple years ago to help us evaluate each others advice. If you check out the dates of most recent posts in each forum, you'll see this is pretty much a ghost town. Can you guess why?

That's a shame. This use to be a great forum and place to talk to other bird owners. I know this was an old thread.. but I am sad to know that it is wide spread

I got my ACV answer Thanks for showing there are still some people around

PK

I thought the discussion was in depth and exhaustive, probably one of the best pieces on the internet so far in regards to AVC. There were two advocates about the same subject, both parties having a strong basis for their opinions and offering facts and quotations to support their position.

Look ladies this is not a tea party.

We all don't have the same view of something.

If you don't explore someone else's view then how can you say that you haven't given any thought or obtained any information about a certain subject?

Only people who complained about the dialogue were not involved in the actual discussion. It might just be that they had no idea what was being discussed?

Ua6 left the discussion flow free like they should have. Are you prescribing censorship?

That will most certainly cause the destruction of any free thinkers out there to passionately debate their beliefs, for the betterment of the avian community, or any community for that matter.

You may choose to read or move on if you do not like the discussion topic. There was no winners, only information both for and against the use ACV. And now it will be available in the future for those who seek out the truths. And for those who use this (ACV) then there will be a reason behind their bird passing away.

Dutch