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Postby ljhassell on Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:50 am

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: great pair of hyacinth macaws

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This is a great pair, but too much noise for the neighbors!
These are two amazing animals and they're madly in love. Sadly, we have no place to keep them as our neighbors are complaining constantly.
These birds are approximately 7 years old and have laid 8 eggs (3 healthy chicks produced, 2 brand new eggs) this season alone. They are larger than other pairs I've seen.
We acqired them from an avian vet and they have a very special diet which will be shared with the buyer. It seems to aid productivity.
Will consider shipping.
Nest box is included. Cage can be purchased.
email me at kinglarrykingdom@yahoo.com
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he just tried to contact me agian......

Postby georgie on Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:34 am

with e-mail referneces. Here is what he said.......

"Hello, for references, you can mail the following people and fine out about me.Frankline_2008@yahoo.com , jamesonpack@yahoo.com these are the two people that I have sold hyaciths to them and talking about were I am, am in Seattles Wa.
So I hope I have answered your questions now and we can push on.
Awaiting your mail
Marious "

I replied asking for professional references such as Veterinarians or Doctors.

I wonder if he will reply???

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Postby ljhassell on Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:54 am

I wonder how many Marious's there are selling HY"S, Fella give it up, I pray no- one falls for this crapola.
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Postby MFids on Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:41 pm

frankline_2008@yahoo.com (think this could be another email address for Marious Timhothy)

It's honestly a sad thing that people DO fall for these scams! They don't think clearly enough, especially when it comes to shipping birds in from another country. Didn't get anything for the other e-mail address...
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Postby ljhassell on Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:59 pm

ztoo bad we cant stop them from posting phony stuff, I hope everyone knows it is mandatory Quarentine and then same when any bird reaches a residence. But this is me and I am way to cautious with any animal, be a horse, dog or bird it goes 120 days in Quarentine and 2 vet checks and pannels done.
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Postby Mary Xmas on Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:51 pm

I am of the opinion, that all ISPs from Cameroon and the couple other offending, scamming African countries be blocked from viewing and posting on all of the avian sites. One of my friends has a website devoted to exotic birds. She said that a couple different ISPs from Cameroon are on her site daily, and there are pix of hers and her friends birds stolen from her site and then posted all over the web in hundreds of for sale ads claiming to be located in various locations here in the USA with those same birds for sale, for cheap, of course. She has blocked the various ISPs as she encounters them, but the country of Cameroon just intrudes again, from an entirely new address. Presently her host is trying to figure out a way to selectively block the entire country of Cameroon and those couple other countries in Africa that are stealing her pix and her text off of her site so they no longer have any access at all. It's a real serious epidemic presently, like an out of control contagious disease. All I can say is, BUYER BEWARE!
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Postby MFids on Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:01 pm

Blocking ISP's isn't necessarily the best thing to do... and even if the whole of Africa was blocked via ISP's, some of the smarter hackers could learn how to get through that issue. Best you can do is to copyright your images with a watermark (a clear one across the page that can't easily be removed)

For example of what a watermark is, is more or less the logo or company name written on an image to make it harder for others to claim it as their own... especially so if it's through the entire image and not in the corner, bottom, etc... All photos on the Lexicon of Parrotswebsite, explaining each parrot species, have been watermarked.... This site also goes to explain what a watermark is, and in short also how to make one....

And not only that, but to make it impossible to right click on the page... Land of Vos has a great page that examples this! You can't right click without a box telling you the page has been copyrighted... of course there are less noticeable ways to copyright a page without telling you... but even when you right click nothing happens.

It's still possible to steal an image from a webpage, sadly... especially if you are quite savvy with the keyboard... thus in short no image is truely protected... even more so, if someone knows how to remove a watermark (it is possible, but more difficult if the watermark covers the subject of the image in just a way that by completely removing the watermark you end up with a strange appearing image.... such as the watermark, say a name, is slanted from top left corner to bottom right corner, and the subject is directly in the middle of the image.... or if you use a logo per-say, that covers practically the ENTIRE image...)
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Postby ljhassell on Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:36 pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject: Beautiful, lovable, talking male Hyacinth macaw

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Beautiful, lovable, talking male Hyacinth macaw. Banded and chipped - all papers and health documents from a nationally known avian vet. Family is heartbroken but must sell due to family member's severe allergy. Price ($1000) includes Stainless Steel Kings Cage #506 (48'L x 36'W x 78'H), 2 months prepared diet, 5 lbs macadamia nuts and toys ; Contact: King; lin,WV; 25865421547 kinglarrykingdom@yahoo.com
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Postby cathyt on Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:06 pm

When you receive an email from yahoo you can check the headers for the IP. That doesn't mean much because one can easily change an IP address. But is something worth noting if one were to try to report fraud.
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Postby Mary Xmas on Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:46 pm

Mfids, you are amazingly sharp for a 19 year old!

Can I adopt you ?
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Postby MFids on Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:56 pm

Cathy, that is correct... which is part of my point in my previous post. Another thing, there are a lot of people that actually share ISP's... There are two types of ISP's... Static, which means it stays the same... vs Dynamic, or rather the ISP changes and could change each time you connect to the internet.. Due to the Dynamic ISP's it is possible to share an ISP with someone who lives 2,000+ miles away. Which is why blocking ISP's isn't really that smart of thing to do, and they can be gotten around.

Mary, I appreciate the complement, but I think a few other people already have some claims on me! :lol:
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Here is more of his contact with me - very funny.........

Postby georgie on Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:26 pm

1) From Georgie to Marius –
Please send me references of professional individuals such as veterinarians or doctors that you have contact with. I do not consider e-mail references as verifiable.

2) From Marius to Georgie -
But the address that I mail to you are of people that I have sold to them before. What do you mean that you want only professionals.
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3) To Marius from Georgie – -
because a professinal reference tells me that you are a legitimate business person and that this is not a scam. I do not do business over the internet on an unseen basis unless I am sure you are who and what you say you are.
The e-mail addy's you sent me could be anyone on the planet.
Regards, GL


4) From Marius to Georgie
Hi, I want you to know that this can never be a scam. so if you really want the hyacith then go ahead. If i want to scam you I will scan you no matter who You contact. so let us be open on this matter. am for real and see no reason scamming you.
So be a man.
Thanks



Anyway I sent back a reply to this a few miins ago admiring his business manner. I also stated that a responsible pet owner would havea VET and everyone sees a DOCTOR at some time in their lives.
Also that I CANT BE A MAN AS I AM A WOMAN. My name is Georgie lin and it is on all my e-mails....DUH!

I wonder if I will get a reply .......again.........I think I got his hopes up that he had a live one! LOL....

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Postby MFids on Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:42 pm

LOL! If he has sent you pictures then you could always forward the original website (from where those images came from) to him and ask him about that!
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so far no more replies from him

Postby georgie on Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:22 pm

and it has been 2 days (over the weekend). Do you think that he has finally figured out that I am on to him and wont be sending any CASH!
What a maroon! ....to quote bugs bunny.
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Okay same people

Postby ljhassell on Wed May 02, 2007 4:48 pm

Hi,
thanks for your mail regarding my parrots,She is still available to any one prepared to provide her with enough care and love,where she will be well spoil with all her need.she is 8months old and has very good
temperament with kids and other pets,very playful love to play around with toys and kids,she is health guaranteed and registered,vet checked.she is up to date on all her shots and will be coming along side her health papers and vet records.she is called Lucy .the reason why i am giving her out for adoption is because working hours are too much for me and it gives me no time to take care of her and also the weather and climate here is not good for her living which might make her sick and you know that i wont like that to happened so i decide to give her out to a family where she will be well taken care of and treated like a daughter.and since you are interested in adopting her,i am willing to give to you but you have to first assure me that you will take good care of her and that you will send her pics to me monthly so that i can see how she is doing in her new home.I am located in Cameroon.Please may i ask you some few questions?
do you have kids?
are you a breeder?
do you have other pets?
where do you live?
how soon do you want her?
are you sure that you will really take good care of her?get her pics below.i hope you will love her.i will be waiting for your mail asap
thanks,


No pictures- bummer, but scammers cant send real pictures just stolen ones.

so I replyed:So if we send you 200.00 you will send a Hyasinthia Macaw as well right?



spelling as good as he does



he replied:Hello,
I will like you to pay directly to the shippers (petscareunit@airportemail.com) contact them so it can ease work on my side.I will also give your email address to them.
Looking forward to reading from you.
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