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Alright, I was trying to find out some possible color results from a pair I have right now. I went to the ALBS (African LoveBird Society) sponsored genetics calculator and entered in the parent's info. A few result suprised me. I got:
Female Lutino (Which I understand)
Female Lutino Pied (How can it be Lutino and Pied?)
Female Lutino Single Factor Violet (?)
Female Lutino Single Factor Violet Pied (?)
Female Medium Lutino (?)
(And then the same Lutino factors in Medium)

How can a Lovebird that is Lutino, have any other visual trait, since the ino gene takes out all of the Melanin (the dark pigments)? I can maybe understand violet, since that is not a pigment, it is a mutation on the feather structure.

Lutino takes out all color EXCEPT yellow... Pied works in much the same way, however it creates a "splotchiness" so to speak... besides, lutino peachfaces still have a peach face.... thus pied can still effect both yellow and peach pigments...

Notice straight line on top of the lovebirds head of the peach?


Well, I guess the easiest way to tell most lutinos from lutino pieds is that lutino pieds will not have a uniform peach mask... it'll somehow be broken up thus the pied factor....

So what your saying is, is that the "Lutino pied" has yellow "pied-ness" (lol) that interups the face? So what if the bird looks exactly like a lutino but it is actually a Lutino Pied? You won't tell the difference except if it has babies?
What about the medium lutinos? How can they have a dark factor if they are lutino?

These are questsion better asked for Linda L! Hope she comes in here!

I know more about cockatiel mutations than I do lovebirds! In lutino cockatiels, they range from all yellow with an orange cheek patch or all white with a yellow head and orange cheek patch. In the yellow lutinos its easier to see if they may be pied or pearl, where-as the white lutinos are harder to tell.

Such as this lutino pearl hen.... you can see the disturbance of yellow within the feathers...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/ ... clutch.jpg

In the lovebird species, I suspect that lutino works differently than it does in tiels... thus you probably wont see a WHITE lutino lovebird... but I believe the mask should still show in the lutino pieds....

As for a lutino pied that appears lutino (if the mask is not affected), then yes I guess the only way to know would be to breed the chick with another pied lovebird.

And as for medium lutinos... well I haven't really read anything on them so I couldn't tell you!

Hopefully though Linda will see this!

Pied in Lutino is not really desirable, as you basically have a Lutino that has a jagged edge on a facial mask. Since pied refers to light color feathers against dark, Lutinos only have light feathers (yellow) so you have no contrast.

Ino will mask violet so you will not see violet unless the Lutino that's carrying it is bred to a non-ino mutation. There are dark factor inos and it goes back to the shade of yellow of the feathers. It's much easier to see in Creamino than it is in Lutino.

While going through various online ads, I came across this pair of lutino lovebirds for adoption... and am wondering if this is a good example of what a lutino pied looks like???

Thank you Linda. So is there anyone who can show me pictures of different dark factored lutinos? I have had a fair good amount od lutinos from these particular parents (the ones that can have medium lutinos) and so far I have only been able to see one of them after the first molt. She is my Baby Re who will stay with me forever. She looks rather bright, I don't know if she would be considered regular lutino or medium lutino. I will post a pic of her when I get a chance.
Thank you guys so much for the info!