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Hi Everyone. I am copying this post here (from Amazon Chat) as the Grey Matter Section posters are the ones who originally helped me with Chilli last year (even though she is an Amazon Blue Front) and hopefully some of the same posters are still here. Thanks so much. Jan and Chilli.

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Hi everyone,
I dont' know if you all remember me, but I was on last year (Feb) when my 14 year old Amazon female, Chilli, had to have surgery to remove a (benign) eye polyp off her 3rd eyelid. She came through that surgery fine and those posters here that helped with info were so helpful.

About a week ago, I noticed that it was starting to grow back (which they said it might). I took her right in to avian vet (who is a excellent vet) and we both thought since this was so small and just starting it would be a much easier surgery on her...but of course no surgery is without danger.

She made it through surgery, but the vet told me she was concerned about a few things. She said as she went to intubate her, she noticed her throat was red, so she did not intubate her and masked her. She also said her assistant noticed her breathing a bit "raspy". The vet gave her a shot of doxycycline that she said was good for one week and sent her home with me to watch her. When we first got home Chilli seemed pretty good. She ate a banana and was mostly herself. However about 2 hours after getting home she become very ill acting and throwing up white slime like stuff. I called the vet and she said to bring her back in the next morning if she was not better. She was not better, so I took her back. They tested her droppings and found lots of yeast, HOWEVER, they had tested her droppings (before) surgery just the day before and found NO problems. I wondered to the vet if maybe she had a reaction to the shot, as normally (in people) I know it takes a few hours to get a side effect and Chilli seemed fine when we got home, but got sick a few hours later. The vet was not sure and said she had not had alot of reactions like that to the antibiotic. She kept her there in incubator and gave her fluids to flush her out and had to tube feed her as she would not eat. She was there about 3 days when they said I could visit her and see if she would eat for me as she was just sitting in her incubator not moving (she does do that even at home if any stranger is around).. Anyway, i went to visit her and she immediately ran to me and started talking. She ate 3 apples slices, some seed/pellets and some water for me. They kept her a few more days but she started eating on her own after that.

I have her home now and we go back next Monday. Here is my fear and worry. The vet noticed the sore throat in surgery (before) the yeast infection started, so I do not think it was from yeast since yeast was not in her droppings day before surgery. The vet gave her doxy shot because I think she felt she might have parrot fever (but she did not say so). Right now, she is home and eating and acting fairly herself, but she keeps kind of digging at her throat after eating. I think her throat may still be sore. The vet said to watch her as the tube feeding for 3 days could have made the throat more sore also.
I am just confused as I can't tell if the antibiotic shot made her sick(vomit) or if the yeast did, or if the antibiotic shot may have of course caused the yeast and that is making her throat sore. My worry is what caused the red throat and raspy breathing during surgery if yeast was not there yet?
Can anyone shed any light for me. I am worried about her and to top it off have two sick cats at home also with upper respiratory, so we are on mental overload.
She has no symptoms either before or after surgery other then ones I mentioned and prior to surgery she seemed fine.
Thanks to any of you who can maybe help or even just give your input on any of it. I am very grateful for any input. Jan and Chlli.

P.S. Her diet consists of half of Kaytee Exact Rainbow pelletsand half Higgins Vita Seed. She also eats apples, brocoli, sweet potato, brussel sprouts. She does like an occasional Cherrio and the vet said it was ok but in moderation now and then

Jan i would not even attempt to give any medical advice, i would however give her anything she wants to eat, have you tried mashed potaotes or scrambled eggs, any soft foods are comfort food that she may enjoy, please keep us posted on her, she will be in my thoughts.

Judy

Sorry no help here, but praying that she is back to her old self real soon.

I would feed her soft foods for a little while and see how she does. And if after a week, she is still having trouble, I would have it investigated. Did the vet do a swab of her throat, blood work? You can soak her pellets in warm organic juice. I give my birds organic grape juice all the time. Be ready for the dark poops though.

Bev

Are you currently treasting her for the yeast infection? My avian vet gave me an oral antifungal to be adminstered twice a day(Unfortunately my electus is prone to yeast infections.) Although I am sure there are many ways to cure a yeast infections, I have never heard of antibiotics although I may be wrong. My concern is that she is going untreated for the yeast infection.

I must have confused things. No, she is not on an antibioitc for yeast now. She has the daily liquid anitifungel (Diflucan) that I am giving her this past week. The vet originally gave her a doxycycline shot that lasts one week, right after surgery, when she noticed the sore throat and raspy breathing during surgery. They had tested her the day before surgery and found no yeast or problems in gram stain and also her chest sounded clear. The vet did not discover the yeast until the day after surgery when I took her back as she was vomiting white, clear, slimly stuff. They retested her droppings and or vomit then and found yeast. So, yes, she is being treated for the yeast and has not had an antibioitc since that one week shot she gave her after surgery.

She still kind of digs as her throat at times, however and I am worried as am not sure if yeast is causing that (you would think in a week it would be subsiding a bit) or if tube feeding irritated her throat, but my worry is that vet noticed a sore throat during the eye surgery, before the yeast or the tube feeding, so I hope we are not working with something else also. I wondered if anyone had a similar experience with anything like this.
Thanks so much for your thoughts and good wishes. I appreciate it. She does eat her regular pellets and seed, she is not good at trying new things although she will eat yogurt off my finger...and of course sweet potato and brussel sprouts.
I guess I am just not sure, nor is vet, what caused all this as so many dymanics were going on at once time, the surgery, the antibiotic shot, the yeast, the tube feeding, this past week.

Yogurt with probiotics is always a good thing to give her. Try to get some with little or no sugar.


Bev

I was at my vets last week when I noticed several gallons of Bragg organic unrefined apple cider vinegar. I also have a gallon of it, so I asked if he was using it. He told me a story of a woman who was dieing until she started drinking it daily. However he keeps it around for birds. He uses it to get rid of yeast. I think they have a website. You could also consider another vet for a consult. Good luck and God bless, Rhonda

When my Lorys went on doxycycline it caused yeast infections. Once I stopped using it and started organic yogurt and ACV it went away.

Also is there any possible correlation between your cat's problems and Chilli's? An allergy, something new added to the environment?

Gary

Thanks for all the info. I have been wracking my brain as to HOW all my animals (different species) got sick at one time with DIFFERENT aliments. It is very odd to happen this way. My 4 year old cat has a bladder infection and they urine they withdrew by needle directly from the bladder (pure sample) said he has E Coli. At first that freaked me out but apparently it is the MOST common cause of bladder infections in people and animals. Then the parrot we are not sure what she had. She had her recheck Monday and the vet found no trace of yeast (after the 10 days on diflucan) and her chest sounded clear (whereas in surgery it sounded raspy). Her throat was no longer red (like they noticed during surgery, which is why they did not intubate her. They did a swab of her throat Monday and found no bateria that would not normally be there. So, the vet said she is not sure what caused the problems right after surgery. She said it is possible the stress might have done it..but since it was noticed DURING surgery, it would have had to have started before that.. Either way, they feel she is ok now and I am to recheck her in two months or call if she acts unusual. I am so grateful she is ok as she was very sick in the incubator for quite a few days... My 15 year old cat had upper respirartory and was quite ill but seems better now. It is like one germ caused different things in different animals but yet nothing has changed anywhere as far as environment.

I now have a problem with my cat with the bladder infection as he can not take Clavamox (makes him deathly sick) and the urine culture showed only 3 drugs can kill the E Coli germ. One is CLavmox, which he can not take, one is 3rd generation Cephalexin (which is 100 dollars for 8 tabs) and the last in Nitrofurantoin, which no vet I have talked to has ever used and none know side effects in cats for that reason. I am very leary to use a drug that no one is sure what to expect in cats...even though it is a human drug it (has) been used in cats but no one I talked with has used it.
I doubt they use it on birds so probably no one here has heard of it, but if by some miracle you have, please let me know. My vet called it in to a human pharmacy but I told them to hold off until I can find some vet who knows more about it effects in cats. The cat is showing NO symptoms of being sick, so that makes me even more leary to rush to some exotic drug that no one knows about.
This has been a real siege of illness and very odd..but no one seems to try to put any of it together (vets) as to why it all happened so I guess they write it off to "coincidence". I agree with Gary, I am not so sure about that and wish I knew... There is little to no info online regarding Nitrofurantoin and cats (or animals) and the info for people shows some side effects that are quite troubling. I really don't know what to do as I can't not treat it, I would think.