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Birds of a feather · by **Birds of a feather** on Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:26 pm

I HAVE MY CANARY ON BAYTRIL,AND HAVE SEEN MANY PROS AND CONS ABOUT IT, HAVE ALSO HEARD ABOUT USING PLAIN YOGART TO PREVENT PROBLEMS FROM THE MED THAT HE IS ON.IS IT ADVISABLE TO GIVE IT TO HIM WHILE HE IS ON THE BAYTRIL OR AFTER HE IS OFF. THANK YOU

Birds of a feather · by **Birds of a feather** on Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:22 am

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW LONG CAN I KEEP THE YOGURT [ I SPELLED IT RIGHT THIS TIME] IN THE CAGE BEFORE IT IS BECOMES SOUR.

Bluesbird Exotics · by **Bluesbird Exotics** on Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:24 pm

Here's an earlier thread discussing the ineffectiveness of yogurt as a probiotic for birds. Sorry. cockatiel/topic52602.html?hilit=probiotic

christie · by **christie** on Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:00 pm

There is a bird bene-bac that you can purchase that works fairly well, just follow the directions of your vet.

Birds of a feather · by **Birds of a feather** on Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:35 am

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVICE. ANOTHER QUESTION, IS IT OK TO GIVE MY CANARY HIS MED EVERY EIGHT HRS. TWICE A DAY .INSTEAD OF 12 HRS. THE VET NEVER TOLD ME HOW MANY HRS APART TO GIVE IT TO HIM

Bluesbird Exotics · by **Bluesbird Exotics** on Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:37 am

Baytril should be given as close to 12 hrs apart as possible. Is your bird showing any improvement yet? BTW, I've never used probiotics for my flock and have never had any resulting problems.

Birds of a feather · by **Birds of a feather** on Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:11 pm

there are times when i think hes getting bwtter, and then like today he was on the bottom of the cage sleeping i did'nt think he would last the day,that was about an hour after giving him his med this morning.hes on his pergh right nowsleeping with his head tucked in his feathers i realy dont expect him to last the day

christie · by **christie** on Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:31 pm

Do you have extra heat in there for him? A sick bird needs to be at 85 degrees. If you put a lamp next to the cage without the shade he can get near the bulb for heat, you can also use a heating pad hanging inside the cage and cover the top, sides, back and part of the front so he can stay warmer.

Don't give up.

Birds of a feather · by **Birds of a feather** on Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:49 pm

THIS IS THE THIRD MEDICATION IVE HAD HIM ON AND I DID HAVE A HEATING PAD ON TOP OF HIS CAGE, BUT AFTER READING THAT YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE A HEATING PAD ON LONGER THEN 6 DAYS TO PREVENT ABIRD GOING INTO A PREMATURE MOLT. I TOOK IT OFF.

christie · by **christie** on Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:33 pm

Put it back and hang it from the side, a sick bird needs the extra heat. The bit about a premature molt I've never heard before, and I've used heating pads and heat lamps with my birds when they are sick with no problems. In fact, if that is all you needed to do to make a bird molt, Gouldian Finch breeders would do this with their chicks to get them to color out earlier.

With a heating pad on the side, the bird can move away from it if they want to cool off, or get close if they are cold.

christie · by **christie** on Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:40 pm

Here is a clip from an article written by an avian vet about supplimental heat:

How To Provide Supplemental Heat

A supplemental heat source is essential for ill or injured birds. Birds lose body heat very rapidly when ill or injured. Place the sick bird in a warm, humid and dim area with a temperature of 80 to 85 degrees Fahrenheit. This area should be as quiet and secluded as possible. To create a warm environment:

•Cover a small cage with a towel and place the cage on a heating pad that is set on low.
•Infrared lamps can also be used, but place them slightly back from the cage to avoid overheating the bird. Make sure that no cords or parts of heating pads are within reach where they may be chewed by the bird.
The inside temperature of the cage can be monitored with an aquarium thermometer that has been placed out of the bird’s reach. Wings that are held away from the body or panting are signs indicating that the bird is too warm. Provide easy access to water or to an electrolyte replacement solution for the bird. Sick birds can dehydrate rapidly due to lack of water consumption and the disease processes. Electrolyte solutions rehydrate the bird more quickly and also provide replacement of those electrolytes lost with vomiting or diarrhea. Discuss the recommended solution with your veterinarian.

http://www.birdchannel.com/bird-diet-and-health/bird-emergency-care/when-to-see-a-vet.aspx

Bluesbird Exotics · by **Bluesbird Exotics** on Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:48 pm

I have 2 of Avitech's heat panels and keep them plugged in all winter each year for birds in cooler rooms of my home. Each is used on the side of a cage large enough for the birds to move away if the heat isn't needed, but they seem to like it. My highly-respected avian vet always nods about what a good idea this is. I've never noticed any molting problems.

Birds of a feather · by **Birds of a feather** on Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:36 pm

YHANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN.I REALY NEEDED THAT. I PUT THE HEATING PAD ON THE CAGE AND A THOMOMETER ON THE BACK OF THE CAGE

Birds of a feather · by **Birds of a feather** on Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:13 am

MY CANARY [SUNSHINE] IS DOING BETTER, BUT STILL HAS LOOS DROPINGS AND I WOULD LIKE TO TRY THE YOGURT, BUT I WANT TO KNOW HOW LONG DO I KEEP IT IN THE CAGE?

christie · by **christie** on Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:30 pm

Again, yogurt does not work to replenish the good bacteria in birds. Talk to your vet about ben-e-bac which is formulated for birds. It is over the counter and fairly inexpensive, you just need to know how much to give your bird.

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