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Postby crash01 on Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:59 pm

I will be painting the bird room (office) next week and the birds will be moving out while we work and until the fumes dissipate. Does anyone have any idea how to tell when it is safe for them to return to the room?


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Postby mom2tiels on Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:20 pm

I would wait at least 4-7 days before moving them back in.
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Re: Paint fumes

Postby ParrontPlus on Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:39 pm

crash01 wrote:... Does anyone have any idea how to tell when it is safe for them to return to the room?


It depends on what type paint you use, how large and well-ventilated the room is, and the extent to which the weather assists. If you've not selected your paint yet, you might be pleased with how much a little research time might cut your birds' exile time. The busier chats can yield a lot of good information on brands that are bird-friendly and on available additives to cut the fumes. I THINK Benj Moore is one of the good ones, but don't take my word for it. Keep doing your homework. You need water-based paint with no oil-based primer.

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Postby Yogi on Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:44 pm

If you get a paint with low VOC ( Forgot what it means but the fumes are very low ) there is almost no odor.. Behrs paint sold at Home Depot is one of the best. I had no problem with fumes . The best is to air out the room with open windows and a fan. When you cant smell the fumes it should be ok. If you have a place to keep the birds away from the area for a day or two thats even better . With a high quality paint there should be no problem. You can always check on the safety with the company by phone or their website which is usually on the can. I never had any problems with the Behr paint even for me and I cant stand paint fumes.---Yogi
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Postby MFids on Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:20 am

I've got some various info regarding paints.... some of it having to do with cage painting... for anyone who may be looking for this info...

Types of Non-Toxic Paints and Finishes

Paint / Cage Finishing: Fresh paint will kill your bird. If you have just finish painting your cage, make sure it is completely dry before placing your bird inside. Cages should be refinished as the paint or plating wears off.

Source: http://www.avianweb.com/cagesafety.html


Pet birds can be hard on cages, often chewing, scratching or wearing the paint. They can ingest flakes of paint which can be harmful to their health. Pet birds can also be sensitive to fumes from new paint.

If you want to repaint an older cage, here are a few tips.
First, the wire should be scrubbed with a wire brush to remove any loose zinc flakes, and then sanded smooth by hand.

In general, look for paints which:
- do not contain lead, zinc or chromate
- are "high adhesion", formulated to bond with the metal surface
- are hard-wearing
- are fast drying

Another suggestion is to look on the back of the paint can and see if it is safe for a human baby. There usually is a picture of a mom holding a child's hand somewhere on the can.

While painting, be sure to:
- move bird to a separate room
- work in a well-ventilated area
- apply paint in a thin coat
- if you're using a spray paint, be sure to hold a large piece of paper or cardboard behind the cage, moving it as you go, to act as a backdrop which catches the excess paint.

When the job is done..... WAIT. If possible, give your freshly painted cage a week or longer before using. Solvent-based paints take time after initial drying to release the solvent vapours. NEVER cover a bird in a freshly painted cage.

This tip to help minimize paint chewing by birds:
Birds love to climb, and paint damage often occurs from birds' gripping the cage with their beak to assist them in climbing up the cage. Aviculturist Eb Cravens also once reported that, by wiring perches or appropriately-sized tree branches onto the inner sides of the wire enclosures, the birds will be encouraged to climb from place to place by gripping these with their beaks, so that they do not even touch the wire when climbing.

A recommendation from Palace Cages:
"Much of the cage industry today uses a "Powder Coat" system. They advertise it is easy to clean and super hard. It may be easier to clean but I don't use powder coat on my cages. The chip problem gets much worse with a very hard material. Powder coat is not paint. It is a thermoplastic. Chips will not break up and and be more likely to cause intestinal blockages. It is also difficult to repair. It is melted on to the cage at aprox. 300 degrees. Powder Coat can be less of a threat with some birds, but I don't recommend it for hook bills."

Source: Palace Cages http://www.cages.com/
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Postby crash01 on Thu May 03, 2007 2:19 pm

Thanks all. I ended up going with Behr. They seem to have the best reputation all around and I was told low fumes too. I am going to keep the birds in the master bedroom until I can't smell the paint any more. That will give me time to get better shades for the window too. We picked that room for the birds, since it got good natural light and breezes (when there are any), so I will try to keep the paint from fading too quickly b/c of light with good shades.
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