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does anyone know where i can find an available single or pair of Hoffman's???

The term Hoffman's pertaining to parrots is not familiar to me. Could you go into a bit more detail?

Could you possibly mean Goffins which is a cockatoo? Or maybe Hahns which is a small macaw?

Yogi

A hoffman's is a species of Pyrrhura conure, I believe.

Yes you are right. Evidently this bird is on the protected list. I had never heard of it. At any rate it will be very difficult to find,a hassle of paperwork and very difficult to get a permit. More than likely have to be put in a breeding program .Good luck to all concerned.-----Yogi

Hoffmans; Pyrrhura Hoffmanni (Cabanis)
Two Subspecies

They are pretty rare birds... I would assume that their close relative, the Rose crowned conure; Pyrrhura Rhodocephala (Sclater and Salvin), may be more widely known... however even at that are pretty rare in their entirety in captivity. I do know there is a breeder of rose crowned conures in Canada, however I do not know where.

lol this is the CONURES forum right? just checking

i got my hoffman's cock from the breeding consortium, in 2003. no paperwork, its not like they're cuban amazons or anything.

however since then i have been looking for a hen for him, no luck so far...

same situation with my male hispaniolan amazon.

Ok then if it's funny you find me a Queen of Bavaria conure in WI that I don't have to have a permit for and don't need to be in a breeding program! Bet you can't LOL

got my hoffman's cock from the breeding consortium, in 2003. no paperwork, its not like they're cuban amazons or anything. -

Really?----I would be most interestested in your experience in obtaining such a rare bird. You just said I want a Hoffman's and they handed it to you?From what I read they are on the endangered list . I always thought it was very complicated to get one of these birds and there were many regulations involved.

Yes this is the conure forum

Yogi

Yogi wrote:got my hoffman's cock from the breeding consortium, in 2003. no paperwork, its not like they're cuban amazons or anything. -

Really?----I would be most interestested in your experience in obtaining such a rare bird. You just said I want a Hoffman's and they handed it to you?From what I read they are on the endangered list . I always thought it was very complicated to get one of these birds and there were many regulations involved.

Yes this is the conure forum

Yogi

huh??? in your first post said i am probably talking about (Goffins) Cockatoos? so how could u have always thought it was very complicated to get one of these birds?

i got my hoffman's with crimson bellies, no paperwork needed. it's sad people say something sounds so rare it must be on the endangered list.

just because u need permits for golden conures and cubans doesn't mean you need permits for anything that is rare or of concern. anyway it's not that rare. just looks like its rare enough i can keep dreaming anyone would have a spare hen. i will have to cough up $1,000 bucks for a pair from cedarhill and consider him a future 1/2 line.

You know for someone that has only been here for 7 days longer than me you have no idea who you are talking to they have helped many of us and some of our birds would be sick or dead if it wasn't for Yogi MFids and many others since you are so smart than why not start your own bird group and normally I don't act this way but go be a jerk there we are all peaceful people with opinions some of them have been here so long they actually think of each other as family I know I look forward to the stories and chat with them daily I am sorry to be a crab but I have grown to care about each and everyone of these people they are my friends so if all you want to do is pick a fight stop now because we all have better things to do with our time!

huh??? in your first post said i am probably talking about (Goffins) Cockatoos? so how could u have always thought it was very complicated to get one of these birds?

Dear Sir or Madam as the case may be-----

if you will note I said

The term Hoffman's pertaining to parrots is not familiar to me. Could you go into a bit more detail?

Could you possibly mean Goffins which is a cockatoo? Or maybe Hahns which is a small macaw?

I have been dabbling in parrots since 1953 and am the first to admit I do not know everything unlike some people. When I researched hoffmans it came up as very rare and said the only place they were available was that place you got yours from. In fact one hit mentioned they were on the Cites list for endangered species. Who is up to date is a moot point.Since I had never heard of a hoffmans I wondered if you had the name wrong as I have seen names such as a cockatiel conure . When people make mistakes or misunderstand I try not to pass judgement.

I;m done with this thread. Take it where you will

This was a perfect opportunity to educate someone who was willing to learn and was curious. Somehow that got lost in the shuffle----Yogi

To be honest, I don't really think I would have known what a hoffmann's was either, if for not the "Encyclopedia of Parakeets" book as well as someones quest for more information on the rose crowned conure!

I have often seen people confused by a bird species either due to it's looks or even its name... someone locally was trying to sell a "green and grey macaw/parrot" which was actually a green cheek conure. He just simply didn't know better or remember correctly, but he appreciated the correction when I helped him identify his bird correctly.

I would have liked to learn also As I am only familiar with GCC BCC HMC CHC MC and a few mutations on a previous post in another group I learned of the QOB never knew about them and my gosh if they aren't pretty! But to qoute someone else I am now done with this post I will go learn on my own and find pictures of a Hoffmans good day and good luck!

...I'm just going to add my 2 cents. I have heard of and seen many pics of the Hoffman's Conure. Gorgeous birds. I knew they were fairly rare but I didn't know they were on the CITIES list. I think it all depends on where you look. I think people must remember that just because the Internet is such a huge hub for information, it is not always accurate. It all depends on the reputation of the site. If it was a Government site, it SHOULD be more accurate, but believe me, the government lies too, we have all seen that.

NYC- I hope you find what you are looking for. Yes, it was a long shot asking here, but you never know, you may come across someone who has one or a pair that they need to rehome. Good luck.

Briana

well just read my post and the reply under it, that says a mouthful.

i understand this forum can be helpful to some, most of the time. but when i read that reply, i heard the twilight zone jingle in the background. it was like the opposite of someone being helpful. anyway, now i see it was simply the person didn't know about the species, so they drew conclusions (cockatoos?), and then some more conclusions (you must need permits cuz its so rare).... anyway talking like that doesn't help, it just adds to the confusion. if it was illegal to have without a permit, i would have placed it with back with the consortium (which seems to have died off?) ie, i had to do that with my pygmy marmoset pair. i got them in the 90s, then in 2001, nyc banned primates, then i moved to nassau county (long island) with them, then bamm in 2005 entire NYS banned all primates (even my wee pair of prosimians) so i placed them with a breeder in florida.

anyway, on the subject of permits, would love to see people talking about permits actually link to what they are talking about. i didn't ask about permits, because none are needed, all i asked was if anyone knew where to get single hoffmans as the only breeder i know of is cedar hill.

and the day NYC or NYS bans exotics birds, i'm outta here. so far even toucans are okay.