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Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

Postby MFids on Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:26 pm

Omar's is a good store, although pricey. Never been there but I've met the owners. I've heard of another good store but I can't recall the name of it.

Well, I've never been to LA so I dont' know what the stores are like from first hand knowledge... I've been to LV though... and the one store I recall going to wasn't al lthat impressive... it was in a small location and a lot of the products looked old. They did have a nice long ladder though! and I think they even had a hybrid cockatoo or something...
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  • Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby Kristopher on Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:27 pm

    I am curious to know what Beatrice's cere color is and how old she is.


    Lesse, when I purchased her she was about seven months and I've had her...I believe five months some time this month. So she's at least a year old. Her cere is actually kind of hard to determine since I swear it seems different with the lighting. But it's like white or a tannish color, not blue or purple. But she is an albino so that may not mean anything.

    The both of you I want to extend my thanks to for all the great info. I intend to take all of it to heart and really consider it. I will not lie, however, being told everything has not deterred me from wanting to adopt a conure. It has, however, gone great lengths to helping me better prepare as safe an environment as possible for when I do bring the little thing home. So, thank you.

    I'm going to do some more research, think further on what you told me and if I have any other comments or questions I'll post again. Thanks!

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    Your situation doesn't necessarily sound ideal, but you sound willing enough to learn and take criticism when given.


    Of course. How else am I going to learn? I love birds and want to be a good keeper of the ones I choose to adopt. They're my responsibility, so I have to do my best to educate myself which you have helped with a lot. It helps that all the criticism I've gotten has all been constructive and very politely worded.
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby MFids on Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:50 pm

    Most people don't take criticism well. Knowing what I do now, I know that my situation has rarely been ideal (I've had birds since I was 12... 10 years. growing up, my situation was never ideal...), and things might just be getting worse. Eight birds, 2 cats and a dog, and we have too many pets... it's not hard caring for them all, most of them being given to us, but our near future might be getting extremely bumpy so I know I can't keep all of them, as much as I'd wish otherwise.


    Albino budgies should, technically, be easy to sex. Males would have pink ceres, and hens would have white, white with tan/blue, tan, or crusty brown. Some budgies though can be quite confusing! I recall seeing images of one recessive pied male that had a waxy tan cere, unlike a hens cere, and proven male since he did reproduce.


    If/when you get your bird, I hope you are still around!
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby christie on Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:09 pm

    Kristopher wrote:The both of you I want to extend my thanks to for all the great info. I intend to take all of it to heart and really consider it. I will not lie, however, being told everything has not deterred me from wanting to adopt a conure. It has, however, gone great lengths to helping me better prepare as safe an environment as possible for when I do bring the little thing home. So, thank you.

    I'm going to do some more research, think further on what you told me and if I have any other comments or questions I'll post again. Thanks!




    If there is one thing I've learned, if a person really wants a bird, they will do all they can to make it happen. You have a job, and you are willing to learn what you need to do to take care of another bird. These are important things in my book!! My situation has rarely been ideal too.

    I got my first bird at 11, did not have access to a vet that would care for him, and had very little information available to learn. I then went to college, worked 15-30 hours a week and went to school full time. This is when I got my second bird. When there was an emergency, I would go to the vet, pay with a credit card, and then pay it off as time went by.

    Now we live in an age where information, both good and bad, is readily available. I encourage everyone to learn all they can before they find their new pet. If in the learning, they decide that they can't have one at the time, that is fine. The only people I will actively discourage getting a bird are teenage kids that will be going off to college, unless it is a family pet and the parents don't mind taking care of it while junior is in the dorms.

    I look forward to you asking more questions, and helping out where I can. I would look for a breeder instead of going to a pet store, and make sure that no matter where you get the bird, that you go for a well bird check on your way home. I've seen a lot of birds come home sick on these forums.

    Also, I would research different kinds of conures. I know you like the sound of a green cheek, but I know that pineapple conures are pretty neat as well. :) Then talk to breeders and see if you can come and see their birds. This way you can decide where to get your bird, and make sure that the breeder is someone you would want to work with.
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby Bluesbird Exotics on Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:18 pm

    christie wrote: ... Then talk to breeders and see if you can come and see their birds. This way you can decide where to get your bird, and make sure that the breeder is someone you would want to work with.


    Be aware tho that good and bad breeders might not allow you into their aviaries, for quite different reasons.
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby Kristopher on Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:16 pm

    Here's one that I've found varying opinions on. Some articles suggest buying a blanket or a little tent to put inside and/or on the bottom of the cage that the bird can sleep on/in. This confuses me because I always thought a bird sleeping on the floor of its cage was a bad thing.

    Your thoughts?
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby christie on Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:30 pm

    Most tents hang in the cage. I've seen dozens of reports of loose threads on these injuring or killing birds. There are options though since conures do like to sleep in things, I can't find the exact name at the moment but there are cardboard tubes that are covered that many people use for their birds. Maybe Monica(mfids) can help me out on what they are called.

    I wouldn't use a blanket though. They get dirty too easy and like you said, would be on the bottom of the cage.

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    They are called chubes. Here is a link where they can be purchased http://www.djfeathers.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=5_93&zenid=bcafde9188ae3d6e3fdcae4caee2d444
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby Kristopher on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:16 pm

    As part of my research I've also been watching a lot of videos of conure parents interacting with their pets and I've noted an odd behavior that I haven't found an explanation for.

    Basically, what it is, is when the bird is getting all cuddly with its favorite human it'll bring a foot up to its beak and just hold it there, sometimes even hold one 'toe' gently in its beak that almost looks like a child sucking its thumb. Any ideas on what this means other than the bird is really comfortable?
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby christie on Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:11 pm

    I honestly don't know, but I will be interested in hearing why they do this.
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby MFids on Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:57 pm

    My mitred conure Charlie does this behavior... can't tell you what it means other than comfort perhaps. He also uses his foot to preen and scratch himself.

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    Casey, a cockatiel, has also been known for either holding onto one of her toes or onto my fingers while getting scritches... kind of like it feels so good she has to grab onto something or else the feeling will somehow escape her!
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby Kristopher on Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:22 pm

    Taking that into account, I would say it's probably a reaction to positive feelings. Like a dog twitching its leg when getting belly rubs.

    Either way it's cute.
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby Kristopher on Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:55 pm

    Another thought. Keeping the new bird in the same room as the old one.

    I know the general idea is to house the bird in the 'center of activity' in the house. For me that would be my room, since I'm home most of week and only gone for a few hours when I am gone. I have enough room for the cage, but I wonder if it's alright to house a new conure with my budgie. Their cages will be at other ends of the room, but I wonder if having another bird so near will negatively effect my ability to bond with my new friend.

    Any thoughts?
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby MFids on Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:43 am

    It's always important to practice safe quarantine. After that, it shouldn't necessarily matter. I currently have 8 birds, two of which enjoy human interaction. All but one of my birds have had one or more homes before mine, and most of them aren't tame, which I don't mind in the least, so long as they are happy. Two of the birds are bonded to me, even though all the birds currently live together in one room. These two particular birds I interact with daily. One enjoys scritches and checking out my own room (she likes to 'escape' from the bird room and explore my room! :lol: ) and the other, well he's overly bonded to me and a real pain so for my benefit (sadly), I moved him in with the rest of the birds... and he's none-too-happy about that... but at least he's no longer screaming *as much* as he used to be, and the times that we do spend together is so much the sweeter for it! I really wish though that I could get him a buddy of his own but I can't do that yet.
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby Bluesbird Exotics on Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:36 am

    Here's more on quarantine: http://www.parrotparrot.com/library/quarantine.htm After safe quarantine, I think the best place for your birds is where you usually are. They will be company for each other across the room when you're away :)
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    Re: Prospective Pet Parent Needs Input

    Postby christie on Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:59 pm

    Posting from my iPhone:

    The birds should be fine in the same room after quarantine, but they will need their own cages to be in when you are not there to supervise out of cage play.
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