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Kiasmama wrote:

ParrontPlus wrote:

Kiasmama wrote:... And yes...you were extreme on your post to that person you are referring to. It turned out it wasn't the life threatening thing that you thought it was. So your "I hope he makes it" coment was WAY off base. ... it didn't need to be stated so bluntly...and as it turned out...you were wrong...

Best news I've had all weekend! I love being wrong about birds being sick I've read all his MANY birds for sale posts without ever finding another mention of the male 'zon who was mutilating his leg: viewtopic.php?p=17753&highlight=#17753

What was the cause -- and the cure? I'd really like to know so I don't make that mistake again.

We all have our buttons, and one of mine is breeders making money off birds but being unwilling to spring for a vet exam. Yes, I did intend for my remark to scare him. I wanted him to go to a vet to save his investment. You've given me hope my strategy worked

Paca

I believe the problem was Amazon Foot Necrosis. I dont' recall what the cure was. ...

Vet Marge Wissman's description of the condition and its cure has me thinking it's a good thing he took the bird to the vet: http://www.exoticpetvet.net/avian/foot.html

gloriajean wrote:

ZazuSally wrote:LJ, have you ever considered going on "Are you smarter than a 5th grader?".


That was funny!!!!
ANYWAY.......I just went back and read a few of the posts from Chrissy and it seems to me that she did everything that she could do. REMEMBER she is only 23 years YOUNG!!! She probably doesn't earn as much as a lot of us 'older' women and her company had cutbacks, her neighbors were complaining.........she did what she had to do. And when things went haywire she did what she could AFFORD to do. I didn't ONCE see a post from her asking for pity, only for help and suggestions. Some people can afford to have more than one or two birds............some can't but thought they could. I was SHOCKED the first year, with all the toys, food waste, vet bills, CAGE COST!!!! And I studied up on it before I got my birds!!! Chrissy is only 23!!! Most 23 year olds can't afford ONE bird, much less two (they just THINK they can). Even a 'free' bird is never 'free'. And LJ, didn't you say something about never taking a 'free' bird and didn't I just see a post from you with pictures of 2 new birds that were "just dropped off"? Did you pay for them? I don't really care if you did or not (I don't think you did though) but it just seems to me that you had a bad experience (reading previous posts from you) and your taking it out on others. Did you and Kiasmama lose skin from your noses from Chrissy's post? NO.........so why the attack on her? No reason for it.....none at all. Just drop it and leave the kid alone to lick her wounds.
Gloria

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Okay- here is the story of these 2 Cockatoos, comming to be with us. It all started I ran across a posting of a Severe Macaw for sale on Craigslist. So i called and they wanted 800.00 for him,this was not a pet, he bit and all were scared to death of him, we talked them down to 650.00,this is a bird that was given to them for free, so off we went 1 1/2 hrs away. Got there and no one would handle him, afraid of him and didnt want to get bit, neither did I. We went prepared and got him into carrier and knew he was scared and confused. The story was the woman was going into surgery and the needed to sell him, she was very heartbroken and cried- made us feel really bad, but we felt they needed the money more than anything. So got him home and set up and I do let them settle, Never do I get them home and mess with them. I like to observe, get them checked out and make sure they are okay. I emailed to let them know he was fine and sent pictures and emailed 3 times more- never heard a word from them. So one day I get an email, I want my bird back, so this after 2 months of working with him- have invested the 650.00 plus another 650.00 up to 1300.00 at this point, working with him, cause he didnt step up, bites really bad. So I told them okay pay the 650.00 back you can come get him, didnt hear back till 2 weeks later so I told them it will be 5.00 a day from last email for care and if they are serious. We went through email- and phone calls left and right, Yes I was highly annoyed and felt like they got an intrest free loan, free care and training for this poor bird. I get final email with them wanting to bring the 2 Cockatoo's they got for free from a Man in MD. and wanted to trade. So I agreed, at this point just wanting to be done with them, and knew the Cockatoos needed help- more than the Macaw we cared for and got diet- health, behaviour turned around, it was 4 months of hell. So now these 2 are recieving proper nutrition, and care and have made huge strides already. I love birds- so does my Husband and our kids, but the people I could really do without, I know she loved the Severe and that was the only reason I agreed to give him back, and take on the Cockatoos, even though i dont need more birds, I couldnt turn them away after seeing how skinny and in need they were in. The people didnt want to refund what we paid- I just hope this poor Severe doesnt end up being sold to someone eles so they can keep doing this, get free birds and trade back- to keep confusing and unravling his world to pay a bills. I did this just beacuse Im such a despised person here, and have no heart- I worked 4 months gaining his trust and working with him, they emailed me a week ago saying they could pet him and scratch under his wing while watching tv, so I did make a family alot happier and now off to help these 2 Cockatoos. Diet, toys cage size, what you do with handeling them makes such a differance and people just dont get it until it comes to a head and has to be fixed.

First of all Kiasmama I never said that they are living happily ever after but that I HOPE that Snowflake is happy now wherever she is (meaning she may not even be with Mary). Second I have not gotten/accepted the money. Third, if I had the TIME and MONEY to go though with the court case and paperwork in Springfield, IL then I wouldn't have had to sell Snowflake and go though this whole mess in the first place. And fourth, why would I sell Snowflake and then decide that I want to get another parrot when I now know I can't afford to keep more than one? Yes people make mistakes and Yes I have to live with mine. I know what has happened and don't need to be reminded of my choice every two minutes. I did come on here asking for advise. I went to my local courthouse to file the paperwork but was told I can't. I can't afford to drive/stay in Springfield while the case is being handled. And Mary still refuses to give me back Snowflake which I still wouldn't be able to afford to keep. My only option, as I see it, is to take the money and get on with my life.

On other chatboards, there are rehoming forums on which it is a bannable offense to criticize the person wanting to find another home for a bird. The thinking, of course, is that anyone wanting to rehome a bird has reasons that -- in the final analysis -- are good for the bird, even if those reasons are not ones all might find laudable. The objective is to get the bird into a home where he or she is wanted.

I realize you didn't post until after Snowflake was in her new home, but my point is that if you needed to rehome her, IMO she needed a new home. I assumed your post was about being scammed and cheated out of your money. Others obviously felt the need for remorse from you for having brought her home in the first place. That's their problem, Chrissy. We would all like to see every bird go directly from the breeder to a good, permanent home, but that's not how it happens, especially with sweet, beautiful cockatoos. Getting each bird into a place where she is wanted, loved, and cared for adequately is a goal worth pursuing.

Paca

Chrissy wrote:My only option, as I see it, is to take the money and get on with my life.

As you should. Most of us learn from our mistakes. Most of us are sympathetic to another persons pain.
Chrissy, if you have questions about the birdie you have left, ANY questions, concerns or anything else..........there are a lot of people here who can help and who care. I think some of the others have reported abuse on this site and hopefully it will be stopped. I have NEVER sounded off like I did in this message but I really don't think you did anything wrong. As you can see a lot of the others stuck up for you and will continue to do so as long as you do the best you can raising your birds. That's really all that anybody here wants. None of us want to argue, name call or make others feel worse about something they've done to their bird. Take care, lick your wounds, go on with life.
Gloria

Chrissy-I hope everything works out for you.

Paca-I agree...looks like it's not something to sneeze at. I'm glad the bird got the help it needed.