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Well I did it today. We went to the vet and got clipped. She looks the same to me. I know he clipped her cause I heard her screaming bloody murder and saw the clippings.. so she is clipped. I believe him when he says conservative. I hope this will be a good thing.. I will find out soon enough.

Couple questions.. Do tiels loose feathers all year round... you know the little feathers on the body and such? If they dont then I have to assume that sophia is molting.

When will it be ok for me to take her out of her cage and begin the whole sitting in my lap sessions? Could you all tell me the signs/behaviors that will tell me when this is ok? I am a patient person most of the time really! but I am totally keyed up to love this little girl with everything I got!

By the way you all are awesome for taking that pet store on the way you did! My kind of people, I never let injustice go..... it is the simple principle of the thing.. no matter who or what is being treated badly somthing has to be said/done about it, every living creature deserves to live as well as circumstances permit! horay for all of you that wrote letters and took action on the helpless animals parts.

I feel like shouting "GO TEAM"
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Yes, I do believe that they do lose feathers alot of times because I thought woody was molting, but the thing is, the feathers come out like crazy for a few days at most with him and then let up and stop. Then a few weeks later the same thing happens again. About a week ago he lost feathers like crazy again for only a day or two.
You can try taking her out anytime----just pay attention to her mood and try to do it when you think she is happiest! Tiels get cranky sometimes----even woody does, although very rarely, he is so good natured and happy all the time, but will still get cranky once in a great while. Also try to get her when she is not sleepy or getting ready for a nap, and never chase her around the cage too much to get her out-----it's ok if she backs off a bit or tries to run, but if it turns into a run around the cage game, it could become upsetting or unpleasant for her. We took woody out and he wasn't too crazy about the idea, but the thing I learned is that the actual act of coming out of the cage was what he didn't like-----once out he was fine. Now woody just lets us take him out, just sits there and doesn't even care, just gets on your hand----or sometimes he still runs if dont feel like it! Sometimes I still get him anyway even if he doesn't seem to want to and then just give him a kiss and then put him right back!
Have fun bonding with your birdie! It's a slow process, but very rewarding and alot of fun!

Tiels do lose feathers year round... then again they have heavy loss periods which is molting... she will have lots of feather pins and will probably be cranky... sorry

My suggestions for tiel play time... allow her to come out of her cage by herself.. for me, at least, I keep their cage as their "safe place" nothing will hurt them/bother them there... if she needs help getting out of the door, give it to her if she needs it... but don't startle her. Once she gets to the door, practice "stepping up" whether you give her a verbal command or not... and then work with her have fun! I am excited for you!

Get that birdie out!! When I got Luna - she was hand fed and had spent time with me in the store, so I think that was a plus for her to bond with us. Once in her cage , she wasn't keen on the idea of leaving it! Instead of grabbing or chasing her, I held my open hand out to her or just my index finger and asked her to step up. By doing this, I let her know I wasn't going to hurt her and let her decide when it was right.

My hubby on the other hand would go in and grab her - so she would squawk and hiss! He is a little old school thinking you have to impose your will on them - yeah right.

I think that led her to bond to me more quickly and stronger then him.

Think about how it looks to a little bird when a hand comes in and grabs them - It's a big mouth trying to eat!! Run!!

I'm sure you'll do great and start bonding in no time! Also you treats to coax them!!

Oh my boyfriend always used to be the one who went in the cage and grabbed woody to get him out. He did seem to be more afraid of him for a while----BUT as afraid as he may have been, it was still very obvious how much he really likes him. Now that the fear has passed, he is fine and I actually think sometimes that he likes my boyfriend more than me because he tends to sing to him more, and is SO happy when he uncovers the cage in the morning! and I have seen him get upset a bit when he has left the house and gone out the door-----he never does that with me! lol When I first got woody, I was not living here yet,(for three months) and I think him and woody just some more time together at first to bond with each other-----I think this is why woody seems to like him so much---Oh he still likes me too, but there just special little things he does with kevin sometimes------he still loves him even though he used to grab him from the cage! I think as long as you try to make it as quick as possible getting him out, and as long as it isn't some scarey chase around the cage, this is what we really tried to do, and if it was too much or he fought it, and we didn't get him out quickly, then we would just give it up and leave him be.

oops! forgot! glad you are feeling at home