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Living with flighted birds

Postby shanlung on Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:28 pm

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This is a love story of me and my Tinkerbell, a free flying Congo African Grey parrot CAG , as we roamed about the mountains and forests and cities of Taiwan. She loves to go riding with me on the motorbike as she sit on a perch on the handle bar.

Later on shama Yingshiong joined me.

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Full details of that and more are in that webpage, together with URLs to the relevant Flickr folders of hundreds of photos. Without those photos, what I wrote will never be believed

Now I am in Oman and taking care of Riamfada, a CAG who was given to me.

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As with all love story, it is happy and sad.

I live a life with fully flighted birds. Perhaps you might
like to try that too.

Warmest regards

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  • Re: Living with flighted birds

    Postby Bluesbird Exotics on Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:55 am

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    Re: Living with flighted birds

    Postby ollie13 on Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:46 pm

    You obviously love your birds, and they love you! You are giving them a lifetime of experiences! Kudos to you! Nancy
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    Re: Living with flighted birds

    Postby shanlung on Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:09 am

    Nancy,

    Thank you.

    All that I do is to extend to them the courtesy and the dignity due to fellow sentients of equal standing, be they birds or beasts.

    No sane person can go for walks with a parrot and followed by 2 cats around neighbourhood and in wadis.

    Riamfada and kitties

    http://shanlung.livejournal.com/100658.html

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    Including into the ocean.

    Last time to beach for Dommie // Cats at home //3 days 2 nights at Turtle Beach Resort

    http://shanlung.livejournal.com/104321.html



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    More of how that was done with the cats here

    Last Footfall in Nepal// Sharon & kitty advice // Riamfada over weekend 18-19 March
    http://shanlung.livejournal.com/113583.html


    Greys are not the best candidate to take outdoors for free flights. For that matter, no parrots are good candidates to do any free flight with.
    I strongly urged people here not to do free flights with any kind of parrot as
    FREE FLIGHT IS LIFE AND DEATH PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS YOURSELF UNLESS YOU DO KNOW.
    NEVER EVER FREE FLY WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE AS THIS CAN LEAD TO LOSS AND DEATH OF YOUR BIRD.

    Riamfada was a wild caught, and likely to be 4-5 years old when she came into my care in Oct 2008. She was very bitey , refused to step up and a frightened ball of grey.
    She flew to me on cue within a couple of days. I never ever starve my birds and creatures or use that euphemism of 'weight management' as excuse.

    Riamfada willingly do this for me, as an equal to another equal.

    Idiot kitties // Riamfada free flights at home and outside villa
    http://shanlung.livejournal.com/109794.html

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    Chile // Riamfada free flights at the edge of Rub Al Khali
    http://shanlung.livejournal.com/112019.html


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    There are folks that advocate taking baby parrots from their parents with the idea of 'taming' them that way.

    I MUST URGE THAT SHOULD NEVER BE DONE.

    Who are we to deprived the fledglings of the time with their parents and deprived them of knowing that they are parrots?
    To gain some imaginary advantage? To forcefully attempt that artificial imprinting into their mind at early stage?

    Are we that weak in our self confidence that we must resort to forcefully taking parrot babies from their own parronts?

    Because self styled 'experts' advise you to do so?

    I am just an amateur with quaint moral values, and a student and will always remain a student.

    When the buying stop, the selling of unweaned baby birds will stop too.

    Yingshiong my shama above was wild caught at 3 years old and given to me at 5 years old.
    Riamfada is a wildcaught as can be seen by her open quarantine ring.

    I never trained them. Starting withTinkerbell, and then Yingshiong, and now Riamfada,
    THEY WERE THE TRAINERS. I AM THEIR TRAINEE.

    I hope you all will enjoy the photos, and the stories behind the photos.

    DO NOT DO FREE FLIGHTS JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE THOSE PHOTOS, JUST AS YOU DO NOT DO SKY DIVING YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU SEEN PHOTOS OF PEOPLE DOING THAT.

    If you have cats , and your cats follow you into the ocean, then perhaps you can also do free flights with your parrots too.


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    Understanding the mind of your grey and other parrots

    Postby shanlung on Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:59 pm

    Understanding the mind of your grey and other parrots


    2600 years ago, Sun Tzu wrote his Ping Fa better known perhaps to you as 'The Art of War'

    One fundamental underlie his thoughts in his PingFa.
    'Tse Chi, Tse Di
    Bai Jan Bai Chen'

    or

    Know yourself, Know your opponent
    A hundred battles, a hundred victory.

    I am not saying we treat our grey as an enemy to do battle with.

    But if we understand them, it may make it that much easier to live with them and to train with them.

    Whether you want to train with them as friends, or to train them as you the "Alpha', understanding their mind must help.

    And perhaps those that thought they must dominate them and be the Alpha might even change their mind instead.

    And perhaps those that have been bitten and otherwise terrorised by their grey might be bitten a lot less and enjoy their parrot a lot more, and find training with them a lot easier. And in bonding with them.

    If you understand the mentality of your parrot, that might go a long way to becoming friends together. And save you lot of pain and heartaches in the process.


    Notwithstanding that was written in early 2005, I cannot add further to that.

    I think this is one of the most important of the many entries I have written over the last ten years.

    I find what I wrote to be applicable to my currently living with Riamfada, and to Yingshiong even if YS was not a grey.


    My 2 cents and for all it is worth.

    An extract from Tinkerbell Legacy

    Tinkerbell Legacy - Living with a flying parrot - Rant 03 (a flighted parrot mentality)

    http://shanlung.livejournal.com/2187.html



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    Re: Living with flighted birds

    Postby shanlung on Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:27 am

    Folks,


    There were some letters that I added to above URL.

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    (editted and added on 10 Aug 2010 - a couple of letters I wrote on 9 Aug 2010 when I revived this old writing. I think those couple of letters belong here as well)

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    [AGPC] Re:Understanding the mind of your grey

    Greys are intelligent and I really cannot see their biting in terms of mindless
    viciousness from them at all.

    Only humans are capable and demonstrate unprovoked viciousness and cruelty. Are
    we right in extending that uniquely human trait to the animals in general and
    greys in particular?

    Greys resort to biting when they are frightened and afraid or if they felt they
    cannot communicate anymore of their wishes and preferences.

    I remembered the days when I was a tiny boy and a lot more cute than what you
    have seen of me in my photos.

    My sisters, and their friends, love to pet my cheek when I did not like it. At
    that time, if I had known of greys and parrots, I would have turned around and
    chomp them on the fingers.

    To me, it was so easy to see if birdie is receptive to me or not.
    And very often, if birdie is not receptive then (to head rubs or to train
    together), just a few minutes later, the birdie will be ready and receptive.

    Perhaps its because I do my best to see their moods AT ALL TIMES.
    And because I want to see, I do see it.

    Smart and intelligent as greys may be, shouldn't the onus be on us the humans
    who are supposed to be even smarter?

    Are we to blame the parrot because they 'cannot read us' (I think they read us
    a lot better!) or should we blame ourselves for not reading them, and in many
    cases, deliberately not reading them in the first place.

    I think 'Alphas' pay a heavier price for assuming the role of alphas
    than those who decide greys are equal and should be treated with the courtesy
    and dignity due to fellow sentients.

    And if 'Alphas' insist on what they think is God given role as 'Alphas', they
    continue to pay the price until they learn.

    To each the role they want to play, and the rewards and price they get for
    playing those roles.

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    Far too often, because people do not see or do not wish to see the reason for
    the biting, they rather conveniently say the parrot bite them without reasons at
    all.

    Or they say its the Terrible 2 or 3. That hormonal changes came.
    That might be the case. But even at that, the nuances of the emotions can be so
    easily seen in them.

    Blaming hormonal changes is another cop-out.

    Even without hormonal changes, a parrot might get out of the wrong side of the
    bed on that day.

    I do not do to them what I done the day before because I can do that the day
    before or even on the hour just before. That the birdie liked it then do not
    mean the birdie like the same thing now.

    The birdie showed so much of what they liked that it is so much easier to make
    yourself more receptive to their moods there and then and act to them according
    to their moods there and then.

    That is just simple courtesy and respect to fellow intelligent sentient.

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    On 15 Aug. I wrote a letter elsewhere that folks here might like to read

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    Quote from: danmcq

    'I agree 100 percent with you, that they do not bite out of just meaness or viciousness. They did it because we did not respect thier space or body language at the time.'

    In this thread at another forum somewhere, there is this lady who love to say she graduated from a bird psychology course in almost everyone of her mail. Whatever that meant. Maybe that she became an expert because she got a printed certificate.

    Her grey bite her about once a month, and that it was the fault of the grey. That greys are so individual. But of course! Greys are individuals.
    I do not treat Riam the way I treat Tinkerbell. But at the very bottom, they all are the same, including getting out of wrong side of bed.

    It was so obvious she relished her role as the Alpha and with her psychology course, that she could psycho the birdie to her will. (guess who I wrote indirectly to in letter of 9 Aug). That she carried the birdie everywhere (guess that she clipped the wings so birdie be less uppity)

    Also obviously, I am a nobody to her. With none of those fancy certs to hang in my house and none of those fancy affiliations. So again

    And if 'Alphas' insist on what they think is God given role as 'Alphas', they
    continue to pay the price until they learn.

    To each the role they want to play, and the rewards and price they get for
    playing those roles.



    I also cannot understand whats all those emphasis on birdie pinning their eyes to be watched out for as the magical precursor to biting.
    Tinkerbell, and now Riamfada, they kept pinning their eyes (narrowing and then dilating their pupils) almost all the time when I play with them.

    I like to think they pin their eyes even when I am not playing and watching them at all.
    I never will know. After all, if I am not watching them, can one know if they pin their eyes then?

    One might as well say parrot open their jaws before they chomp on you and watch out that opening of the jaws.

    One other very special point I like to make.

    I always asked them (by voice or by the very actions) and I watched them, as to everything I like them to do, or allow me to do.
    My wishes were almost never rejected by them.

    I do believe, the very act of asking them, was perceived by them.

    And because I did the courtesy of asking them, they allowed me , and played along with me, because I asked them.

    Simple opening of the heart, and courtesy and respect to them, gained me a lot more than a dozen beautiful certificates and affiliations.

    Your graduation from my course is your better enjoyment with your birdie and having more magic in your relationship. And a lot less chomping from them.

    Isn't that better than a beautiful cert and diploma hanging on your wall?

    Do try that, and remember that cheque to Gerald Durell Wildlife Trust or to any nature conservation body of your choice on your graduation.

    And tell your friends it worked for you and to try this course.




    Warmest regards


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    Re: Living with flighted birds

    Postby shanlung on Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:11 pm

    Pakistan//Riamfada at home//Dommie at the beach again Ramadhan 2010 //Villa walkabout 3
    http://shanlung.livejournal.com/119381.html


    Riamfada flying into home//Neighbourhood hide&seek
    http://shanlung.livejournal.com/119717.html


    9-11//Dommie final visit to ocean Ramadan 2010 & unsheduled Riamfada free flight//The Day Approaches
    http://shanlung.livejournal.com/119935.html


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