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Toxins and Dangers

Postby billibird on Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:04 pm

Hi, I'm about to get my first parrot and I am really worried about toxins and want everyones advice on what and what not to use! I have read up about them online, but they all say that there are things missing, so any other tales of sickness from household items would be appreciated. I really want him to be as healthy as possible.

First up, my bedroom (where I want the bird to be housed) is right next to our pool. It has a chlorine salt mix and I don't think there's too much chlorine in there, does anyone know if that could be harmful, or is it only harmful if they consume chlorine?

What bathroom cleaning products are safe?

Also I know it's fine to take your bird for drives, but are old cars ok, or cars without air con.

Are most things, apart from overheated cooking appliances, paint, and strong cleaning products ok to use in another room. Face cleansing products and perfume...?

Please feel free to offer any advice!
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  • Re: Toxins and Dangers

    Postby Bluesbird Exotics on Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:44 pm

    I approach questions such as yours in a "green" way, Billie. Learn to think like a scientist about air flow and quality. Our birds have extraordinarily efficient respiratory systems, so they're impacted by airborne toxins faster than we are, the canaries in the mines. Think about how toxins get into the air around your bird (and you) and work to minimize that. Taking your perfume query as an example ... if someone in your home applied perfume in another room but them walked into your bird's room, what comes along? And not only on their body, but in the air that flows through the opened door. I'm sure you've seen shows about the spread of killer diseases, where the docs and scientists wear air-tight suits and breathing tanks. Think why that is, b/c you can learn about toxic contamination even while laughing about the film itself.

    I don't know about chlorine, but I think it's an excellent question, so please pursue it. The danger with old cars and those w/o AC is the bird's exposure to temperature extremes. If the car breaks down in frigid weather, you can wrap yourself in blankets and be glad you've worn boots and gloves, but your bird sits beside you very exposed. And if it's such a hot day that the lack of AC has the bird panting, that's not good. For cleaning, I use Oxyfresh (NOT Oxyclean!) or vinegar. Here are some links to lists of specific dangers to our birds:

    http://www.exoticbird.com/gillian/holiday.html
    http://exoticpetvet.net/avian/topten.html#Fumes
    http://www.ecomall.com/greenshopping/teflon4.htm
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    Re: Toxins and Dangers

    Postby petdiva on Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:08 am

    Just a warning... You might want to reconsider housing your new parrot in your bedroom. I've heard of other owners who later became embarrassed after their parrots started imitating sounds they heard their owner(s) making in the bedroom. Do you want future company to possibly hear that? I also heard about a Moluccan Cockatoo that embarrassed it's owners after staying at the vet clinic. This Cockatoo also imitated it's owners, and the employees got to hear in graphic detail. Just something to keep in mind...
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    Re: Toxins and Dangers

    Postby ZazuSally on Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:24 am

    Non-stick cookware is never safe to use anywhere around birds. Get rid of it. There are other alternatives.

    What kind of bird did you get?

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    Re: Toxins and Dangers

    Postby MFids on Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:27 pm

    ZazuSally wrote:Non-stick cookware is never safe to use anywhere around birds. Get rid of it. There are other alternatives.

    What kind of bird did you get?

    Bev


    Cookware (or anything for that matter) coated in PTFE and possibly PFOA is dangerous. It's not just cookware, but other household appliances as well - anything that *may* be heated up. If you have an item that is meant to be heated, such as non-stick pans, silicone bakeware, hair dryers, heaters of any sort, ovens, etc, contact the manufacturer and see if the products contain PTFE or PFOA. Also, beware of ionizers - which are harmful as well

    However, non-stick cookware that does not contain PTFE *should* be safe. Heard of Green Pans? Thermolon technology? Hard anodized Aluminum? All these have been said to be safe for use around parrots. In fact, some parrot toy parts are made with hard/infused anodized aluminum.

    Overcooked or burnt food could potentially be harmful, no matter what it is cooked in.
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    Re: Toxins and Dangers

    Postby billibird on Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:42 am

    Thanks for all of your help!

    I'm getting an eclectus boy.

    Will try to email all the companies this week and give away some old pans!
    I think I'll get him a big day cage and a nice cosy sleep cage in another room as well and I live in aus so there's not much cold weather but it can get a bit hot.

    Thanks again, I'll post some pics up when I get him and let you know how everything goes!
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    Re: Toxins and Dangers

    Postby tee-elle on Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:04 am

    Billie, good to hear that you are getting a eclectus cock. I too am collecting my hand raised parrot next Thursday. I am excited about this as I have waited quite a while for this to eventuate. Which state do you live in? I live in Sydney and Riley, the eclectus is flying in from Coffs Harbour. Regards Terrie
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    Re: Toxins and Dangers

    Postby billibird on Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:20 pm

    Haha it's all so exciting. I'm in Brisbane and I will be picking him up in a few weeks. What size is your cage. I really want a double huge cage but they're $700. Other than those I can only find large ones that don't look to be the greatest quality, or smaller better quality ones with built in play gyms and such. Let me know how he goes!
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