Paring up for the first time

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Paring up for the first time

Postby jimhcctx on Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:19 am

Hi, I am attempting to pair up for the spring breeding season and would appreciate thoughts if these pairs will produce babies of good colors:

Blue Lacewing hen X gray lacewing cock
Lutino hen x lime lacewing cock
Blue hen X blue cock
Blue Hen X Lutino Cock
Lime Lacewing hen X Blue Lacewing cock

this is my first attempt at breeding, so appreciate any thoughts you have.

thanks

Jim
Corpus Christi, TX
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Re: Paring up for the first time

Postby alhee on Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:32 pm

The blue hen x lutino cock is a wasted breeding, as you will have
lutino hens and green cocks. Best bet is a lutino x lutino breeding,
as this is the easiest way to produce lutino cocks. Then the blue hen x lacewing cock should also produce some valuable
young.
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Re: Paring up for the first time

Postby alhee on Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:11 pm

If "lime" is actually cinnamon-green, then you would get your best results
by keeping lime x lime, and blue x blue, unless you have an inbreeding problem.
A blue hen x a lime lacewing cock would result in
lime lacewing hens, and green cocks - which would be valuable for breeding
as they would be split to blue, cinnamon, and lacewing. Otherwise, there is not much use
for "split" cocks past that generation.
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Re: Paring up for the first time

Postby jimhcctx on Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:16 pm

Thank you for the insight. The Lime's I was refering to are actually Green Lacewings with yellow heads. I paired up the two lutinos, unfortunatlly the hen is young, born last spring, and while she keeps going into the nest box, I find she is doing nothing more the deficating in the box, so I am guessing that means she is too young to breed.

For this year only, I guess rather then not breed anything I will place a 2 year old green lacwing hen back in their with the 4-5 year old Lutino. I was really hoping to not end up with any greens, but guess one needs to work with what you have and the only singles left are too young (liolet male, lutino female) or the green lacwing brither to the hen.

thanks again for the information.

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Re: Paring up for the first time

Postby alhee on Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:35 pm

Unless your lacewings (brother & sister) are already too inbred (which they probably are !),
I would rather risk and learn about that breeding, as the babies this year would be more valuable
or useful than from the lutino cock x lacewing pairing. I guess, we agree that there is only a
limited value to green cocks, even if they are split to other mutations, as 1/2 of their babies
will continue to be green.
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Re: Paring up for the first time

Postby alhee on Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:48 pm

Your note:
"For this year only, I guess rather then not breed anything I will place a 2 year old green lacwing hen back in their with the 4-5 year old Lutino. I was really hoping to not end up with any greens, but guess one needs to work with what you have and the only singles left are too young (liolet male, lutino female) or the green lacewing brother to the hen."

Possible good news !
I apologize for not writing down the source, but it appears likely that lacewing is actually an incomplete variant of lutino, so
the lacewing cock x lutino hen should give you these offspring: lutino hens, and cocks that might be lutino or a pale lacewing !
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