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Amazon attacks

Postby GreenMaster on Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:46 pm

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I have a 21 year old yellow nape amazon. Hes been in my family his whole life. He has been mine since I got married 4 years ago and took him with me. He is a bitter. I read on the net that parrots bite because they are afraid. Well a few weeks ago Pete the parrot flew off from the top of his cage onto me and bit me big time. Swelling and bruising followed. Over the last year he has been more violent. I love him and would never give him up. Any ideas as to how to get him to be nicer to me and my husband? I don't know anyone who has any older Amazon parrots. I don't know why my sweet Pete has been so hard to understand. He is in the main part of the house and I let him out of his cage almost everyday. I want to get him a big gym to play on but I'm afraid of his behavior too. Please help!!!
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  • Re: Amazon attacks

    Postby petdiva on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:22 pm

    I sympathize with you. I don't have an Amazon, and stories like this are what has kept me from taking the plunge. However, I still really like the Amazons because they are very honest birds. Most times, you can tell when they are a little crazy and should be left alone. Some members with Amazons should be on shortly, but I'll start with some ideas...

    Amazons, especially the hot three (Yellow Nape, Blue Front, and Double Yellow Head), can be difficult and aggressive when they are going through their hormonal periods. Males can be worse than females. If he is acting excited - eyes pinning and fanned tail, I would leave him in his cage. I would take him out when he seems calmer. If you don't have one already, I would also suggest you buy one of those hand perches so you can move him back and forth without having him on your hand or arm.

    If Pete is flying off his cage to attack you, I would recommend you clip his wings. If you are not comfortable doing it yourself, you can take him to an avian vet or groomer. Sometimes clipping the flight feathers can help modify aggressive behavior. Plus you won't have to worry about the arial attacks.
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    Amazon Attacks

    Postby macaw75 on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:28 pm

    You said he flew at you to bite you. First thing to do is TRIM THOSE WINGS!!! That will put a stop to that right away. Next, there are many reasons birds will bite and fear is only one of them. Sometimes only the bird knows exactly why, but to them, they do have a reason. You mentioned over the past year he has been getting more aggresive. Do you remember exactly what you were doing at those times? What were you doing when he flew at you and bit you? Who else was in the room (people or other animals/birds)? Has he been aggresive with anyone else in the family? Since he's 21 it's not hormones just starting up since he's had those for over 12 years or so.

    You have to try to think/rationalize like an Amazon. He may decide he doesn't want you near your spouse/kids/pets anymore. A new hair style/cut/color. New fingernail polish color or sculptured nails. Something you may have been wearing at the times he was aggresive. Drinking. Have you been upset or depressed. Anything new in the room. These are just a few obvious things I could think of and as you can see, it could be anything that is setting him off. Something you wouldn't have thought of before. Next time he starts to act aggressive, make a mental note of everything going on around you, what your wearing, who else is there, etc. Even if it makes no sense to you. Write it down along with the date/time of day. Everytime it happens, write down everything you can think of, no matter how small. You should soon start to see a pattern and then you can work on changing the behavior.
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    Amazon Attack

    Postby Mumbles on Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:31 pm

    Either my husband and I have been very lucky or our 3 Amazons have never read a book on how to act. We are 3 for 3 in the "hot" 3. One male Yellow Nape who will be 20 next month. One male Double Yellow Head who will be 50+/- in December and one female Double Yellow Head who will be 14 next month.

    The nape was a rescue/rehome who hated all men and I mean coming off his cage attacking with bites to bone if he could. Then he met my husband and now 11 years later that bird worships the ground my husband walks on. They do everything together and my husband is his mate or so the Nape thinks. My husband can not go anyplace for more than 24 hours without coming home to a parrot that is really pissed off at him. It takes our nape up to 4 days to forgive my husband and be lovey again. Until then he will try and bite him and love on me big time to make husband jealous.

    Our male DYH who is almost 50 is the biggest lover in the world. We rescued him 4 years ago Christmas Eve. He is slowly going blind in one eye and has arthritis in both feet so need a bit of special care. He has never even tried to bite in all this time. He just loves to cuddle on my chest for hours on end.

    Our female DYH loves her mom and still hasn't decided whether to bite daddy are like him. She loves to play with him if he keeps his distance (on the other side of a closed cage door).

    All 3 are our of their cages from about 8am until 9pm everyday. None of them have their wings clipped (we cant' clip the 50+ guy because he uses them for balance).

    Not sure if any of this might help you or not. I agree with the others though something has changed to make him be upset. Trying to figure it out might take sometime but don't give up.

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    Biting Amazon

    Postby macaw75 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:49 am

    Sorry, forgot to say that fear is at the bottom of the list since you've had him all his life. Another thing I thought of is did you move his cage to a different part of the room/house sometime before this started? Even just a few feet?
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    Postby GreenMaster on Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:39 am

    Thanks for all the replies! I'm so glad I came here to get some help.
    I should mention the day Pete the parrot bit me he was a little hyper. He was hyper all day ready to get you lunging kind of hyper. I went over to the window and stepped away from the cage when he lunged at me. I thought i was out of range til he jumped/flew off the cage. So clipping the wings has been a no no cause we like it when he flies. Sometimes he goes after my husband ( I think that is 1 of the reasons he is naughty sometimes), Now when I pick him up I have to put on gloves, bring over his pearch and then he will get on so I can put him back in his cage. Used to be he'd get on my arm and I could carry him around.
    My husband used to be able to kiss Pete on the beak til 1 day Pete junped on him biting his lip. And about 2 weeks ago on of out friends gave him a almond and Pete bit him enough to bleed :oops: Now when hes out of his cage I will hold up a piece of junk mail and if he attack the mail I know he's not in a cuddly mood. I know he is happy where he is cause he was really awful when we moved him to a corner and a psychic told us he liked the place be the window better. When we moved him to the window he was happier.
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    amazon attacks

    Postby macaw75 on Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:01 am

    You mentioned that triming wings is a No No cause you like it when he fly's. Your joking, right? It's not like if you clip his wings they won't ever grow back. And if it will help your relationship with him, then isn't it worth him not flying for a few months? But if you are insistant on it, then you will probably have to put up with him flying at you and the attacks. Think about what are you going to do if he attacks your kids (if you have any) or a neighbor or friend, etc. You could even face a serious lawsuit over it. You might want to google pictures of parrot attacks and see the damage that an amazon can do. People have been seriously disfigured from parrot attacks.

    You need to get a handle on his behavior and you can't do that if your not willing to make some changes that will help get you to where you want to be with your bird. It's going to take work and commitment on your part. As for the psychic, why didn't he/she tell you why the bird was biting? What do you mean your bird was really awfull when he wasn't by the window? Awfull how?

    Amazons can go into kind of an overload from too much stimuli and that could cause him to attack especially if your attempting to pick him up. It could be happening with him being in front of the window. I'm sure you've heard the saying "too much of a good thing isn't always good for you". I would suggest moving his cage a few feet down the wall so that only a few inches of his cage is in front of the window. This way he isn't spending so much time getting over exited by all of the happenings outside. If that doesn't help, then move his cage somewhere else and put a playstand near the window. Allow him time on the playstand during the day, but not all day. This may or may not be the problem, but it's just one of many possibilities.
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    Postby GreenMaster on Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:35 pm

    Maybe I didn't explain myself too well. I have not seen much use in clipping his wings because me and my husband like having him fly sometimes. Most of the day he's in his cage, when I let him out he get to stretch his wings and stuff maybe he will fly and when he does that he usually flies around the room and explores. We get him back in his cage if we need to. Also when we have any children or someone who is not familiar we put him back in his cage.

    But I will probably end up clipping his wings when we decide to have children for their safety or if he starts flying only to attack. There have been times where he has jumped to attack as I have mentioned but never a fly accross the room to attack us. When we moved him to the corner he was gloomy and acted diffeent more yelling and angry. By the window he seemed happier.

    I should mention he can be a very sweet parrot and when he is you can pet him and make noises and whistle back and forth and he plays so cutely with his toys. I just want get him not to bite and trust more.
    I am willing to work on him and am happy to get advice at all. I loved to hear there are people out there that have amazons older than mine that are cuddly even if my parrot is never cuddly he can be sweet and has a winning personality.
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    Re: Amazon attacks

    Postby petdiva on Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:08 am

    I should mention the day Pete the parrot bit me he was a little hyper. He was hyper all day ready to get you lunging kind of hyper. I went over to the window and stepped away from the cage when he lunged at me. I thought i was out of range til he jumped/flew off the cage.


    If you are not going to clip his wings, then you should not even take him out of his cage when he is acting like this. If Pete can fly, you are NEVER out of range.

    So clipping the wings has been a no no cause we like it when he flies. Sometimes he goes after my husband ( I think that is 1 of the reasons he is naughty sometimes)


    You are not doing Pete any favors by not clipping his wings. He's learned that he can fly and bite and get away with it. It's only a matter of time before he bites someone bad enough to cause a scar, if he hasn't already (your husband's lip).

    There are other ways for a bird to get exercise without flying. Each of my birds has a very large cage. They climb around all over inside it, and sometimes I will see them hanging from a rope perch or toy, flapping their wings.
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    Postby GreenMaster on Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:15 am

    Me and my husband have been thinking of buying a gym for him we found one for a really great price, but need to find some space for it. Do you think it would help with his aggression?

    Also has anyone heard of something like cage aggression or possessiveness?
    I read something about it once.Pete is really cuddly when we take him to the vet and can be easily handled when he is far, far away from his cage.
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    Postby Kiasmama on Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:48 pm

    Kia has her wings clipped and we exercise just about every day by doing some "mock flying". She holds onto my finger or a rope and flaps her wings for a few minutes at a time. It's great exercise and I'm convinced it gets out some of her aggressiveness. I"m not saying she is aggressive, but she's definitely a bit moody some days. :lol: I think any kind of playing would probably be a good idea. But remember that they get worked up when playing, so you have to watch out for that.

    Kia is possessive of her night time sleeping cage, but not of the downstairs one. But, when shes' moody, she's moody whether shes' by a cage or not...lol.

    How much sleep is he getting? I know that's probably not associated with lunging attacks, but if you give him 13 or 14 hours of sleep a night, it might make a difference. I definitely notice a difference in kia if she misses a nap or wakes up a few times during the night. I guess they get crabby just like me.

    Good luck!
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    Re: Amazon attacks

    Postby mrsskiffy on Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:08 pm

    You know, I think a playstand, in a different room than his cage, may be well worth the try for you. It sounds like he may be territorial of his cage.

    If he's flying at people to attack them, then you may just have to clip his wings, at least once, as a last resort. Clipping his wings would probably calm him down enough that you could start working with him daily on step ups to let him know that there are some rules he has to abide by.

    Good luck with Pete!
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    Re: Amazon attacks

    Postby Bob S on Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:31 pm

    You really do need to trim those wings!!!!!!

    Amazons can be too unpredictable to let them be flighted in a house... I have a 10 year old Blue-front male and I make sure he's clipped... my boy has never bitten me but, I realize that he may some day and I simply don't want that to happen... plus clipping wings prevents a lot of other accidents from happening in a household environment.

    Please, for your sake and Pete's clip the wings and perhaps read some behaviorists books such as Sally Blanchard's.

    Good luck!
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